Comments for Sick Lines http://www.sicklines.com SickLines.com | Your comprehensive downhill and freeride mountain bike resource Sat, 07 Nov 2009 12:37:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 Comment on Preview: 2010 Intense 951 FRO by sicklines http://www.sicklines.com/2009/07/22/preview-2010-intense-951-fro/#comment-279328 sicklines Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:46:02 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=5628#comment-279328 Ah yea that'll do it. Makes all the difference to make sure you have the right spring :) (would also make sense why you wanted steeper cups) Ah yea that’ll do it. Makes all the difference to make sure you have the right spring :) (would also make sense why you wanted steeper cups)

]]> Comment on Preview: 2010 Intense 951 FRO by Vince http://www.sicklines.com/2009/07/22/preview-2010-intense-951-fro/#comment-279195 Vince Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:37:27 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=5628#comment-279195 rear spring was too soft, and I didn't measure the rear sag correctly. On the rite path now, I ordered a 400#. I had an old steel 400# spring laying around and tried it out. Sweet the bike turns now. I probably had about 50% sag before. No wonder it wouldn't turn and I got hung up on rocks. Live and learn. rear spring was too soft, and I didn’t measure the rear sag correctly. On the rite path now, I ordered a 400#. I had an old steel 400# spring laying around and tried it out. Sweet the bike turns now. I probably had about 50% sag before. No wonder it wouldn’t turn and I got hung up on rocks. Live and learn.

]]> Comment on Preview: 2010 Intense 951 FRO by sicklines http://www.sicklines.com/2009/07/22/preview-2010-intense-951-fro/#comment-279176 sicklines Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:23:09 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=5628#comment-279176 Ah yea, wasn’t implying that you did tests in parking lots :) However people will jump on a bike and quickly try and assess it in some way/shape. Just making a point of saying that you need to ride it to determine if it'll work for you. The cups are the K9 2º. As i’m sure you’re aware, different forks have different Axle 2 Crown measurements. This, in addition to various headsets out there (zero stack, 1.5, etc) have cause variations. Moving the stanchions up/down on the crowns can also alter the head angle. head angle on a downhill bike is something sort of hard for a manufacturer to put down on paper without listing the complete build, axle 2 crown, etc. 17.5 isn’t a magic number by any means but it does afect the nibleness of the bike as well as changing the relative rider’s mass to the rear axle that can aid in snapping the bike around quicker. Nothing says you can’t go to 17.75 and it not be a problem or 17.25. The wheelbase is long but that doesn’t mean it has to have long chainstays. Ah yea, wasn’t implying that you did tests in parking lots :)
However people will jump on a bike and quickly try and assess it in some way/shape. Just making a point of saying that you need to ride it to determine if it’ll work for you.

The cups are the K9 2º. As i’m sure you’re aware, different forks have different Axle 2 Crown measurements. This, in addition to various headsets out there (zero stack, 1.5, etc) have cause variations. Moving the stanchions up/down on the crowns can also alter the head angle. head angle on a downhill bike is something sort of hard for a manufacturer to put down on paper without listing the complete build, axle 2 crown, etc.

17.5 isn’t a magic number by any means but it does afect the nibleness of the bike as well as changing the relative rider’s mass to the rear axle that can aid in snapping the bike around quicker. Nothing says you can’t go to 17.75 and it not be a problem or 17.25. The wheelbase is long but that doesn’t mean it has to have long chainstays.

]]> Comment on Contest: Submit a Video - First Prize is a 661 Evolution Legend Helmet by sicklines http://www.sicklines.com/2009/09/16/contest-submit-a-video-first-prize-is-a-661-evolution-legend-helmet/#comment-279175 sicklines Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:15:27 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=6290#comment-279175 got a lot of things we're working on, don't fret we'll post it up soon. got a lot of things we’re working on, don’t fret we’ll post it up soon.

]]> Comment on Preview: 2010 Intense 951 FRO by sicklines http://www.sicklines.com/2009/07/22/preview-2010-intense-951-fro/#comment-279173 sicklines Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:58:40 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=5628#comment-279173 e*13 did make some for their pro athletes (I believe it was 1º) but I am not aware of them making any for consumers. yea, you can spin them for +2º e*13 did make some for their pro athletes (I believe it was 1º) but I am not aware of them making any for consumers.

yea, you can spin them for +2º

]]> Comment on Preview: 2010 Intense 951 FRO by Bryan http://www.sicklines.com/2009/07/22/preview-2010-intense-951-fro/#comment-279165 Bryan Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:10:32 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=5628#comment-279165 James said he wanted to alter the geo, slacker, w/out using the G3. it sounds as if the designed i2i is the preferred. Sicklines just made my point. Why have 8 or 8.5? especially if adjusting it on the fly doesn't really work because of the altering of the suspension curve thang.. 8" provides lower leverage ratio as well, correct? lower lev ratio makes travel feel more consistant from Begin to end of stroke/axle path. this is also part of the 'suspension curve' thang.. it looks like intense has made most of their 'upper links' w/ two shock mount options. but this is something that most riders don't really understand when it comes to changing the 'suspension curve' etc.. Really, 12.7 mm difference (if it is a true .5") why?? most specs are rounded up, so it is probably under .5". Rider wouldn't know difference as long as 'suspension curve' was set up same...Why not make the bike 8.25" travel..LOL..Bryan James said he wanted to alter the geo, slacker, w/out using the G3. it sounds as if the designed i2i is the preferred.
Sicklines just made my point. Why have 8 or 8.5? especially if adjusting it on the fly doesn’t really work because of the altering of the suspension curve thang.. 8″ provides lower leverage ratio as well, correct? lower lev ratio makes travel feel more consistant from Begin to end of stroke/axle path. this is also part of the ’suspension curve’ thang.. it looks like intense has made most of their ‘upper links’ w/ two shock mount options. but this is something that most riders don’t really understand when it comes to changing the ’suspension curve’ etc.. Really, 12.7 mm difference (if it is a true .5″) why?? most specs are rounded up, so it is probably under .5″. Rider wouldn’t know difference as long as ’suspension curve’ was set up same…Why not make the bike 8.25″ travel..LOL..Bryan

]]> Comment on Preview: 2010 Intense 951 FRO by Bryan http://www.sicklines.com/2009/07/22/preview-2010-intense-951-fro/#comment-279164 Bryan Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:49:46 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=5628#comment-279164 Sicklines. I don't test bikes in Parking lots. DH bikes are meant to be slack. Speed. is the key. are your angled cups the K9 2deg? Spec above in your writeup says G3 in mid is 64.5 deg. so, w/ cups it should have become 63.5?? 17.5 chainstay is magic #? Independently, what is the pos/neg of changing chainstay length? Your 951 is a large, so Wheelbase is long especially w/ the Slacker headtube. Sicklines. I don’t test bikes in Parking lots. DH bikes are meant to be slack. Speed. is the key.
are your angled cups the K9 2deg? Spec above in your writeup says G3 in mid is 64.5 deg. so, w/ cups it should have become 63.5?? 17.5 chainstay is magic #? Independently, what is the pos/neg of changing chainstay length? Your 951 is a large, so Wheelbase is long especially w/ the Slacker headtube.

]]> Comment on Preview: 2010 Intense 951 FRO by Bryan http://www.sicklines.com/2009/07/22/preview-2010-intense-951-fro/#comment-279156 Bryan Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:33:38 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=5628#comment-279156 I thought i saw once that the E13 reducers could be positioned in either a +or- .5 deg?? couldn't vince just use the K9s and spin 'em 180 deg for the steeper effect vs. slacker...?? if it is really the goal.. I thought i saw once that the E13 reducers could be positioned in either a +or- .5 deg?? couldn’t vince just use the K9s and spin ‘em 180 deg for the steeper effect vs. slacker…?? if it is really the goal..

]]> Comment on Contest: Submit a Video - First Prize is a 661 Evolution Legend Helmet by V.P. http://www.sicklines.com/2009/09/16/contest-submit-a-video-first-prize-is-a-661-evolution-legend-helmet/#comment-279094 V.P. Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:37:52 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=6290#comment-279094 November 1st has passed, whats the delay guys? November 1st has passed, whats the delay guys?

]]> Comment on Contest: Submit a Video and win prizes by V.P. http://www.sicklines.com/2009/10/27/contest-submit-a-video-and-win-prizes/#comment-278985 V.P. Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:24:44 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=6910#comment-278985 So when will the winners be announced? So when will the winners be announced?

]]> Comment on Preview: 2010 Intense 951 FRO by Vince http://www.sicklines.com/2009/07/22/preview-2010-intense-951-fro/#comment-278973 Vince Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:01:08 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=5628#comment-278973 Figured out I need a 400# spring and have one ordered. this is why It wasn't turning for me. can't wait to try the new spring. Figured out I need a 400# spring and have one ordered.
this is why It wasn’t turning for me. can’t wait to try the new spring.

]]> Comment on Preview: 2010 Intense 951 FRO by sicklines http://www.sicklines.com/2009/07/22/preview-2010-intense-951-fro/#comment-278931 sicklines Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:38:10 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=5628#comment-278931 Try emailing K9 and asking them? They might fit (but give you less of a difference in headangle change for example). Outside of that you're sort of limited to the G3 setup or sourcing some angled headtube cups). I suspect a machine shop could also rework some angled cups for you if you found the right one. Try emailing K9 and asking them? They might fit (but give you less of a difference in headangle change for example). Outside of that you’re sort of limited to the G3 setup or sourcing some angled headtube cups). I suspect a machine shop could also rework some angled cups for you if you found the right one.

]]> Comment on Preview: 2010 Intense 951 FRO by sicklines http://www.sicklines.com/2009/07/22/preview-2010-intense-951-fro/#comment-278930 sicklines Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:37:05 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=5628#comment-278930 the lower price 951 to our knowledge is on delay (or not coming) as the popularity of the 951 in its current form is keeping intense busy. I suspect if sales / #'s for the 951 weren't so high they would come out with the cheaper version but that doesn't seem to be happening soon. The shorter stroke i2i won't affect the amount of travel assuming the stroke is the same but it does pose the ability to alter the geo (and suspension action). hard to say if it'd be better or worse, but depending on the amount might not really alter it too drastically. We found the 951 was more than capable in the 8" setting. Putting it in the 8.5" requires a heavier spring (or you'll be running a lot more sag, alters the suspension curve, etc). the lower price 951 to our knowledge is on delay (or not coming) as the popularity of the 951 in its current form is keeping intense busy. I suspect if sales / #’s for the 951 weren’t so high they would come out with the cheaper version but that doesn’t seem to be happening soon. The shorter stroke i2i won’t affect the amount of travel assuming the stroke is the same but it does pose the ability to alter the geo (and suspension action). hard to say if it’d be better or worse, but depending on the amount might not really alter it too drastically. We found the 951 was more than capable in the 8″ setting. Putting it in the 8.5″ requires a heavier spring (or you’ll be running a lot more sag, alters the suspension curve, etc).

]]> Comment on Preview: 2010 Intense 951 FRO by sicklines http://www.sicklines.com/2009/07/22/preview-2010-intense-951-fro/#comment-278929 sicklines Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:32:59 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=5628#comment-278929 The V10 is a bit steeper (even with sagged) compared to a lot of bikes. Our M6 was slacker for example and has over 9" of travel. The angled cups set the headtube to 63 degrees int he middle G3 setting. We did this so we didnt' have to lengthen the chainstays to accomplish a slightly slacker headtube. Slack headangles do have their benefits (certainly not for everyone) but try it out if you get the chance and see if you like it. The true test is when you're riding it down a hill as parking lot won't tell you how it will handle turns, drops, steeps, stability, etc. Updates should be soon, just got to get it all typed/worked out (lots of stuff in the works). The V10 is a bit steeper (even with sagged) compared to a lot of bikes. Our M6 was slacker for example and has over 9″ of travel.

The angled cups set the headtube to 63 degrees int he middle G3 setting. We did this so we didnt’ have to lengthen the chainstays to accomplish a slightly slacker headtube. Slack headangles do have their benefits (certainly not for everyone) but try it out if you get the chance and see if you like it. The true test is when you’re riding it down a hill as parking lot won’t tell you how it will handle turns, drops, steeps, stability, etc. Updates should be soon, just got to get it all typed/worked out (lots of stuff in the works).

]]> Comment on Resort: Winter Park, Colorado by sicklines http://www.sicklines.com/2008/09/17/resort-winter-park-colorado/#comment-278928 sicklines Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:24:54 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/2008/09/17/resort-winter-park-colorado/#comment-278928 Kris - check this out: http://www.sicklines.com/courses/ethirteen-east-coast-chronicles/ Kris - check this out:

http://www.sicklines.com/courses/ethirteen-east-coast-chronicles/

]]> Comment on Resort: Winter Park, Colorado by kris http://www.sicklines.com/2008/09/17/resort-winter-park-colorado/#comment-278873 kris Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:03:21 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/2008/09/17/resort-winter-park-colorado/#comment-278873 does anyone know of good trails onn the East coast?? im in high school and have killed all the local trails and im trying to get to more challenging trails does anyone know of good trails onn the East coast?? im in high school and have killed all the local trails and im trying to get to more challenging trails

]]> Comment on Preview: 2010 Intense 951 FRO by Vince http://www.sicklines.com/2009/07/22/preview-2010-intense-951-fro/#comment-278863 Vince Sun, 01 Nov 2009 22:42:55 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=5628#comment-278863 Same thing here, I'm at 32% sag But the BB sits so low when in sag I can touch the ground with the heal of my foot and this is with 165mm cranks. Same thing here, I’m at 32% sag But the BB sits so low when in sag I can touch the ground with the heal of my foot and this is with 165mm cranks.

]]> Comment on Video: Foot Out Flat Out 2 - Fast and Loose trailer by Gil http://www.sicklines.com/2009/10/19/video-foot-out-flat-out-2-fast-and-loose/#comment-278854 Gil Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:28:39 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=6886#comment-278854 Thanks Max. I found it. Thanks Max. I found it.

]]> Comment on American Junior Sensation Neko Mulally Signs With 23 Degrees by Jason Scheiding http://www.sicklines.com/2009/10/21/american-junior-sensation-neko-mulally-signs-with-23-degrees/#comment-278750 Jason Scheiding Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:55:31 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=6897#comment-278750 Killer Talent, Super fast rider with great riding style. He deserves it. Killer Talent, Super fast rider with great riding style. He deserves it.

]]> Comment on Preview: 2010 Intense 951 FRO by Vince http://www.sicklines.com/2009/07/22/preview-2010-intense-951-fro/#comment-278748 Vince Sun, 01 Nov 2009 00:07:50 +0000 http://www.sicklines.com/?p=5628#comment-278748 How much rear sag do you have on the 951 ? How much rear sag do you have on the 951 ?

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